Comments on: Declaration Of War http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2007/11/28/and-the-fun-continues/ marina da gama Sat, 27 Aug 2011 21:06:34 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: trz http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2007/11/28/and-the-fun-continues/#comment-723 trz Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:38:45 +0000 http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/?p=23#comment-723 Nice Article. Keep up The Good work. Thanks for the information!! Nice Article. Keep up The Good work.
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]]> By: Benjamin http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2007/11/28/and-the-fun-continues/#comment-35 Benjamin Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:53:26 +0000 http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/?p=23#comment-35 It is sad that people who claim to represent the "majority", now resort to intimidation when they do not get their way. In a democratic society, even the "minority" has a voice and rights too. Intimidation is a weapon used by cowards. AK, you have the support of the real majority of the residents of the Marina. I do not have a huge bank balance, the lawyers on the retainer nor the staff as some people do, however, i am a proud resident of the marina and a law abiding citizen who will support a just cause. We are all concerned about the security. We however cannot shovel minority-get-rich-schemes through peoples throaths and claim to be doing it for the community. I hope that at some point people will swallow their pride, abondon there-so-called plan and start engaging all residents afresh to find an alternative solution that enjoy the support of all It is sad that people who claim to represent the “majority”, now resort to intimidation when they do not get their way. In a democratic society, even the “minority” has a voice and rights too. Intimidation is a weapon used by cowards. AK, you have the support of the real majority of the residents of the Marina. I do not have a huge bank balance, the lawyers on the retainer nor the staff as some people do, however, i am a proud resident of the marina and a law abiding citizen who will support a just cause. We are all concerned about the security. We however cannot shovel minority-get-rich-schemes through peoples throaths and claim to be doing it for the community. I hope that at some point people will swallow their pride, abondon there-so-called plan and start engaging all residents afresh to find an alternative solution that enjoy the support of all

]]> By: wcalder http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2007/11/28/and-the-fun-continues/#comment-34 wcalder Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:41:09 +0000 http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/?p=23#comment-34 Wilma says Has SD read the article in the Cape Argus on the 29 November.The council have said they will not be responsible for services in a gated community.We will have to service or own sewage,roads,lighting,waterways etc.This is an old infrastructure,imagine what that will cost.I hope SD has a big fat chequebook so that he can pay his levies that will be a couple of thousand a month.This is very possible with the changes the assoc. have made to the constitution. Wilma says Has SD read the article in the Cape Argus on the 29 November.The council have said they will not be responsible for services in a gated community.We will have to service or own sewage,roads,lighting,waterways etc.This is an old infrastructure,imagine what that will cost.I hope SD has a big fat chequebook so that he can pay his levies that will be a couple of thousand a month.This is very possible with the changes the assoc. have made to the constitution.

]]> By: Anita http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2007/11/28/and-the-fun-continues/#comment-32 Anita Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:23:52 +0000 http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/?p=23#comment-32 Dear SD I have read your comments with interest and can understand your frustration. If I felt that my family were threatened and that someone was preventing me from protecting them, I too would have lashed out. You are however mistaken if you believe that the objectors are trying to stop a security scheme. Our fight is about the Association’s constitution and we insist that our (and your) rights are protected in the constitution first. It is not necessary to give up our rights in order to implement a security scheme. We believe that this fight is worth fighting and will not back down. The one thing I am sure about, is that we are well within our rights to object to the changes sought to the constitution. I have reams of paperwork to back my case, and am quite willing to share the knowledge I have gained with you and your lawyers. Neither the security scheme nor the changes to the constitution were voted in by the majority of the homeowners in the Marina and now even the Executive Committee of the Association have been forced to admit that there is simply not enough support for this security scheme. In fact, barring one or two votes, the members at the recent AGM voted unanimously to suspend the scheme as it was felt that, at this stage, it is not a viable option. ExCom do however still insist on keeping the changes to the Constitution, which re-enforces our stance that the Marina-wide security scheme was merely a smokescreen in order for them to gain additional powers. I am convinced that, had ExCom been prepared to listen to our legitimate objections about the constitution, a security plan would have been in place already. Instead, we now have a community divided and no security plan. Your conclusion that there is only a handful of objectors can only have been gained from the misinformation that you have been subjected to in the Marina News distributed by ExCom. They have done their level best to make our group seem small and insignificant, but have now finally admitted that we have a substantial following. I have merely been the mouthpiece of many. Again. Our objections are about the changes to the Constitution. Please read your constitution. It is an important document with very real legal implications. Should you wish, I would be willing to discuss this matter with you, or anybody else, personally. Please contact me, my number is 084 3522 620. I look forward to hearing from you. If not, please do as your conscience prescribes. Dear SD

I have read your comments with interest and can understand your frustration. If I felt that my family were threatened and that someone was preventing me from protecting them, I too would have lashed out.

You are however mistaken if you believe that the objectors are trying to stop a security scheme. Our fight is about the Association’s constitution and we insist that our (and your) rights are protected in the constitution first. It is not necessary to give up our rights in order to implement a security scheme. We believe that this fight is worth fighting and will not back down.

The one thing I am sure about, is that we are well within our rights to object to the changes sought to the constitution. I have reams of paperwork to back my case, and am quite willing to share the knowledge I have gained with you and your lawyers.

Neither the security scheme nor the changes to the constitution were voted in by the majority of the homeowners in the Marina and now even the Executive Committee of the Association have been forced to admit that there is simply not enough support for this security scheme. In fact, barring one or two votes, the members at the recent AGM voted unanimously to suspend the scheme as it was felt that, at this stage, it is not a viable option. ExCom do however still insist on keeping the changes to the Constitution, which re-enforces our stance that the Marina-wide security scheme was merely a smokescreen in order for them to gain additional powers.

I am convinced that, had ExCom been prepared to listen to our legitimate objections about the constitution, a security plan would have been in place already. Instead, we now have a community divided and no security plan.

Your conclusion that there is only a handful of objectors can only have been gained from the misinformation that you have been subjected to in the Marina News distributed by ExCom. They have done their level best to make our group seem small and insignificant, but have now finally admitted that we have a substantial following. I have merely been the mouthpiece of many.

Again. Our objections are about the changes to the Constitution. Please read your constitution. It is an important document with very real legal implications.

Should you wish, I would be willing to discuss this matter with you, or anybody else, personally. Please contact me, my number is 084 3522 620. I look forward to hearing from you. If not, please do as your conscience prescribes.

]]> By: CvdW http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2007/11/28/and-the-fun-continues/#comment-31 CvdW Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:17:22 +0000 http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/?p=23#comment-31 I can’t believe that people are stupid enough to believe that the so called security-plan will work. I mean, really! The guard has no right to stop anyone from entering, and no right to search anyone on exiting. In addition, they get paid such pathetic salaries/wages that the gangs will inevitably bribe them to give information about which homes are vulnerable, who is at home etc. This guard will be in the ideal position to note your comings and goings, and you want to pay him to do so. And even if the guard cannot be bribed, a little bit of motivation, like threatening to break his kneecaps, will certainly do the trick. It is not a question of if it is going to happen, it is a question of when. The only way in which we are going to get true security, is if we get to know our neighbours, if we look out for one another and if we do it ourselves. We have a vested interest in a secure area, not some or other low-paid guard sitting at the entrance, chatting up girls or reading a book. Get real! It is time we look after one another, not pay someone to do it for us. It has been proven over and again that money does not buy loyalty. Let us become a true community and start looking out for one another. That is where our strength will lie, not in dishing out large amounts of money to the Association. I can’t believe that people are stupid enough to believe that the so called security-plan will work. I mean, really! The guard has no right to stop anyone from entering, and no right to search anyone on exiting. In addition, they get paid such pathetic salaries/wages that the gangs will inevitably bribe them to give information about which homes are vulnerable, who is at home etc. This guard will be in the ideal position to note your comings and goings, and you want to pay him to do so. And even if the guard cannot be bribed, a little bit of motivation, like threatening to break his kneecaps, will certainly do the trick. It is not a question of if it is going to happen, it is a question of when. The only way in which we are going to get true security, is if we get to know our neighbours, if we look out for one another and if we do it ourselves. We have a vested interest in a secure area, not some or other low-paid guard sitting at the entrance, chatting up girls or reading a book. Get real! It is time we look after one another, not pay someone to do it for us. It has been proven over and again that money does not buy loyalty. Let us become a true community and start looking out for one another. That is where our strength will lie, not in dishing out large amounts of money to the Association.

]]> By: Maria http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2007/11/28/and-the-fun-continues/#comment-29 Maria Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:25:33 +0000 http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/?p=23#comment-29 Isn't it sad to see that a community is so devided? Why does the MDGA not do something about it? Why is our Councillor not stepping in? What is happening here? Isn’t it sad to see that a community is so devided? Why does the MDGA not do something about it? Why is our Councillor not stepping in? What is happening here?

]]> By: HM http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2007/11/28/and-the-fun-continues/#comment-27 HM Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:34:52 +0000 http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/?p=23#comment-27 SD get a life and walk in with the bowler Money cannot buy power and the constitution is LAW not what you and the rest of your band say. There are 1360 houses in the Marina and not every one was asked about the security only a handful. Have you stopped to think about what EVERYONE wants and no just you. How can you only put the blame on one person (Anita) when she is the voice for the other residents that you and your band wish not to listen to and take into account the views of other people, to sling mud around and blame only makes you look guilty. What is the MDGA trying to hide. Take that from a concerned resident, and put your ideas to sleep. Bring on your big guns, we are not scared,nor stupid as Sidney quoted. SD get a life and walk in with the bowler Money cannot buy power and the constitution is LAW not what you and the rest of your band say. There are 1360 houses in the Marina and not every one was asked about the security only a handful. Have you stopped to think about what EVERYONE wants and no just you. How can you only put the blame on one person (Anita) when she is the voice for the other residents that you and your band wish not to listen to and take into account the views of other people, to sling mud around and blame only makes you look guilty. What is the MDGA trying to hide. Take that from a concerned resident, and put your ideas to sleep. Bring on your big guns, we are not scared,nor stupid as Sidney quoted.

]]> By: Mike http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2007/11/28/and-the-fun-continues/#comment-26 Mike Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:07:47 +0000 http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/?p=23#comment-26 Dear SD I see that security, or rather insecurity is foremost on your mid. Unfortunately, no amount of security would be able to help you with that problem. I suggest that you spend all that money that you brag about on a good psychiatrist. At least that would be money well spent. It is clear that you either have not read the information that was sent to you or that you lack the intelligence to understand it. It is also clear that you have not attended the last AGM, otherwise you would not write such drivel. I think you would have a hard time finding a Lawyer to assist you with such a nonsense-case. I think you are a weak, narrow-minded little man who gets no respect from his neighbours or family. Now you are trying to gain respect, and unfortunately you have failed miserably. If you have the guts, I dare you to comment on this, so that I can have the chance to humiliate you even more that you have done yourself. Dear SD I see that security, or rather insecurity is foremost on your mid. Unfortunately, no amount of security would be able to help you with that problem. I suggest that you spend all that money that you brag about on a good psychiatrist. At least that would be money well spent. It is clear that you either have not read the information that was sent to you or that you lack the intelligence to understand it. It is also clear that you have not attended the last AGM, otherwise you would not write such drivel. I think you would have a hard time finding a Lawyer to assist you with such a nonsense-case. I think you are a weak, narrow-minded little man who gets no respect from his neighbours or family. Now you are trying to gain respect, and unfortunately you have failed miserably. If you have the guts, I dare you to comment on this, so that I can have the chance to humiliate you even more that you have done yourself.

]]> By: Onlooker http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2007/11/28/and-the-fun-continues/#comment-25 Onlooker Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:07:09 +0000 http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/?p=23#comment-25 Wow, what sparked such intense frustration? Did the wife say "no"? Wow, what sparked such intense frustration? Did the wife say “no”?

]]> By: Doc http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2007/11/28/and-the-fun-continues/#comment-24 Doc Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:06:25 +0000 http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/?p=23#comment-24 What a lot of nonsense from SD. Why not leave a name so that we can contact you and discuss this matter. The majority of residents will not pay a monthly levy. It is not about security it is how Excom pushed through a change in the constitution. Anita we support you and the time is now to prove that the Association does not exist. Peter Harrison must remember he is a foreigner in my country. This nonsense he has caused under his poor leadership must now come to an end. I will take it up with Home Affairs that he has no place in this country. We have enough information for Home Affairs to kick him out of this country. How can we allow a foreigner that SA residents might loose their property in the Marina. Thank you Anita. Dr. What a lot of nonsense from SD. Why not leave a name so that we can contact you and discuss this matter. The majority of residents will not pay a monthly levy. It is not about security it is how Excom pushed through a change in the constitution. Anita we support you and the time is now to prove that the Association does not exist. Peter Harrison must remember he is a foreigner in my country. This nonsense he has caused under his poor leadership must now come to an end. I will take it up with Home Affairs that he has no place in this country. We have enough information for Home Affairs to kick him out of this country. How can we allow a foreigner that SA residents might loose their property in the Marina. Thank you Anita. Dr.

]]> By: Peter http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2007/11/28/and-the-fun-continues/#comment-23 Peter Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:05:47 +0000 http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/?p=23#comment-23 Finally, someone with money and power who is prepared to stand up for the Marina. I do wish you good luck with the court case though. It seems a bit of a dubious case, but probably worth trying. Finally, someone with money and power who is prepared to stand up for the Marina. I do wish you good luck with the court case though. It seems a bit of a dubious case, but probably worth trying.

]]> By: Anonymous http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2007/11/28/and-the-fun-continues/#comment-21 Anonymous Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:03:04 +0000 http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/?p=23#comment-21 Hey, Bud, what’s stopping you from starting a security scheme in your own area? Don’t you have enough support? Leave Anita alone. She is only looking after our interests. Go girl, we are right behind you. Hey, Bud, what’s stopping you from starting a security scheme in your own area? Don’t you have enough support? Leave Anita alone. She is only looking after our interests. Go girl, we are right behind you.

]]> By: Erik Winter http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2007/11/28/and-the-fun-continues/#comment-17 Erik Winter Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:30:01 +0000 http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/?p=23#comment-17 What SD fails to mention (perhaps because she doesn't know) is that the MDGA didn't tell residents that there are more security options and suggestions than they mentioned. Furthermore, I am given to understand that the security "scheme" is not going to happen, but the amendment to the constitution (which was supposedly necessary to let the security plan happen) is still on the table. Please ask yourself why this is so. What SD fails to mention (perhaps because she doesn’t know) is that the MDGA didn’t tell residents that there are more security options and suggestions than they mentioned. Furthermore, I am given to understand that the security “scheme” is not going to happen, but the amendment to the constitution (which was supposedly necessary to let the security plan happen) is still on the table. Please ask yourself why this is so.

]]> By: Sidney http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2007/11/28/and-the-fun-continues/#comment-16 Sidney Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:18:04 +0000 http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/?p=23#comment-16 You must be joking. No way would a judge or lawyer tell you that you have a case. Do you think we are stupid? You must be joking. No way would a judge or lawyer tell you that you have a case. Do you think we are stupid?

]]> By: Fred http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2007/11/28/and-the-fun-continues/#comment-18 Fred Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:24:37 +0000 http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/?p=23#comment-18 If SD is so concerned about the security, why not move out of the Marina. It is a small group of residents that want the "so-called" security. Why not have a referendum where 100% of residents can have their say. If SD is so concerned about the security, why not move out of the Marina. It is a small group of residents that want the “so-called” security. Why not have a referendum where 100% of residents can have their say.

]]> By: Cheshirecat http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2007/11/28/and-the-fun-continues/#comment-22 Cheshirecat Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:04:37 +0000 http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/?p=23#comment-22 I cannot believe SD's agression. Security is important to all of us, but it seems as if we need to be protected from people like him. Why is it necessary to become so agressive? You say that Marina is something special so why are you ruining it by being so beastly? A declaration of war is simply unacceptable. I cannot believe SD’s agression. Security is important to all of us, but it seems as if we need to be protected from people like him. Why is it necessary to become so agressive? You say that Marina is something special so why are you ruining it by being so beastly? A declaration of war is simply unacceptable.

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