Comments on: Will Pietie give Leon the Axe? http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2008/10/30/will-pietie-give-leon-the-axe/ marina da gama Fri, 10 Sep 2010 21:54:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: jt http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2008/10/30/will-pietie-give-leon-the-axe/#comment-655 jt Fri, 31 Oct 2008 05:31:57 +0000 http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2008/10/30/will-pietie-give-leon-the-axe/#comment-655 Leon, on a more serious note, seeing as this is my last post for the week (now watch those blinking ads reappear...) good luck for Monday's MDGA AGM. I have no doubt you will get reappointed onto the executive as there won't be enough volunteers to warrant holding a vote. So you're in already. Congratulations! All differences aside, I salute you for going where no tyrant chairman has gone before and entering into a dialogue on this website with 'headless chickens' and 'bitter einders'. It's a start and for that reason alone, I hope your fellow excom members vote you in as Chairman. In fact, you should insist on it. Just give them a piece of your mind and demand your rightful place and I'm sure they'll go for it. May the force be with you!! Leon, on a more serious note, seeing as this is my last post for the week (now watch those blinking ads reappear…) good luck for Monday’s MDGA AGM.
I have no doubt you will get reappointed onto the executive as there won’t be enough volunteers to warrant holding a vote. So you’re in already. Congratulations!
All differences aside, I salute you for going where no tyrant chairman has gone before and entering into a dialogue on this website with ‘headless chickens’ and ‘bitter einders’. It’s a start and for that reason alone, I hope your fellow excom members vote you in as Chairman. In fact, you should insist on it. Just give them a piece of your mind and demand your rightful place and I’m sure they’ll go for it. May the force be with you!!

]]> By: jt http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2008/10/30/will-pietie-give-leon-the-axe/#comment-653 jt Fri, 31 Oct 2008 05:00:26 +0000 http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2008/10/30/will-pietie-give-leon-the-axe/#comment-653 Leon, what you are complaining about is a drop in the ocean. Let me make your nightmare even worse. Rand-wise there is just as much if not more grossly under-valued luxury and commercial property which you are also subsidising with your taxes. Chances are the little plots over the way are too small to attract rates to any meaningful extent. As I said before, you get the same benefit so stop whining. Personally I am more than happy to pay taxes so long as officialdom don't steal it. Instead of eating colleagues for lunch you should read the papers. There are so many people out of work because there simply aren't enough jobs to go around. Be thankful for small mercies Leon. We don't have to share jobs yet but don't think it won't ever happen. You could end up sharing a whole lot more than you bargained for so get with the programme and stop being so self-centred. Ubuntu! Leon, what you are complaining about is a drop in the ocean. Let me make your nightmare even worse. Rand-wise there is just as much if not more grossly under-valued luxury and commercial property which you are also subsidising with your taxes. Chances are the little plots over the way are too small to attract rates to any meaningful extent. As I said before, you get the same benefit so stop whining. Personally I am more than happy to pay taxes so long as officialdom don’t steal it. Instead of eating colleagues for lunch you should read the papers. There are so many people out of work because there simply aren’t enough jobs to go around. Be thankful for small mercies Leon. We don’t have to share jobs yet but don’t think it won’t ever happen. You could end up sharing a whole lot more than you bargained for so get with the programme and stop being so self-centred. Ubuntu!

]]> By: Anita http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2008/10/30/will-pietie-give-leon-the-axe/#comment-649 Anita Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:12:23 +0000 http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2008/10/30/will-pietie-give-leon-the-axe/#comment-649 Leon. Slow down, you are tripping over your own feet. Remember, the valuation roll is available - for free - on the internet. Your house is valued at R926 000,00 and not at R1.5 mil. And don't you dare call me a freeloader. I,together with many other members of this community, have spent many hours and a lot of money - our own money, not money extorted from the community - on fighting a situation that is inherently unjust and prejudicial. We have not done this for financial gain, but because we believe that it is in the best interest of the community at large. I have not just sat on the sideline, expecting others to do work for me. Quite the contrary. This situation, foisted on us by greed, has caused me, for more than 2 years, to make it my mission to help the community. It has almost been a full-time job. And I have done it free of charge and with no expectation of any financial compensation whatsoever. I only did it because I feel it is the right thing to do. So climb off your high horse, mister. You have already advised everyone that you have no such philanthropic ideals and that you do what you do because you find some kind of gain therefrom. Leon.

Slow down, you are tripping over your own feet. Remember, the valuation roll is available - for free - on the internet. Your house is valued at R926 000,00 and not at R1.5 mil.

And don’t you dare call me a freeloader. I,together with many other members of this community, have spent many hours and a lot of money - our own money, not money extorted from the community - on fighting a situation that is inherently unjust and prejudicial. We have not done this for financial gain, but because we believe that it is in the best interest of the community at large.

I have not just sat on the sideline, expecting others to do work for me. Quite the contrary. This situation, foisted on us by greed, has caused me, for more than 2 years, to make it my mission to help the community. It has almost been a full-time job. And I have done it free of charge and with no expectation of any financial compensation whatsoever. I only did it because I feel it is the right thing to do.

So climb off your high horse, mister. You have already advised everyone that you have no such philanthropic ideals and that you do what you do because you find some kind of gain therefrom.

]]> By: leon http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2008/10/30/will-pietie-give-leon-the-axe/#comment-646 leon Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:55:09 +0000 http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2008/10/30/will-pietie-give-leon-the-axe/#comment-646 Slow down. You are tripping over your own feet. You can not claim IOD from the webmaster. I pay for rates on a 1,5 mil rand house. Go across the street and you pay nothing. I pay extra on my water to give to the under privilege that sit at home - to lazy to get a job. Go across the street and you pay nothing as the tap is a communal one that can run the whole day. I pay high consumption on my electricity - pay penalties on it so that I can support the bonuses for the managers of Eskom. Go across the road you get supplied with electricity (part of self development done by government)- get rebate and get concession. All of this 200 meters away from my house. Yes I have an issue with free loaders. Sounds just like the MDGA. They work for the people - get criticized while doing free work for the free loaders. All the while the free loaders sitting on the fence giving comments loader Slow down. You are tripping over your own feet. You can not claim IOD from the webmaster.

I pay for rates on a 1,5 mil rand house. Go across the street and you pay nothing.

I pay extra on my water to give to the under privilege that sit at home - to lazy to get a job. Go across the street and you pay nothing as the tap is a communal one that can run the whole day.

I pay high consumption on my electricity - pay penalties on it so that I can support the bonuses for the managers of Eskom. Go across the road you get supplied with electricity (part of self development done by government)- get rebate and get concession.

All of this 200 meters away from my house.

Yes I have an issue with free loaders.

Sounds just like the MDGA. They work for the people - get criticized while doing free work for the free loaders. All the while the free loaders sitting on the fence giving comments loader

]]> By: jt http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2008/10/30/will-pietie-give-leon-the-axe/#comment-635 jt Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:35:56 +0000 http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2008/10/30/will-pietie-give-leon-the-axe/#comment-635 Sorry Leon I stand to correction wrt the electricity quota - Eskom probably can't afford it just yet. Sorry Leon I stand to correction wrt the electricity quota - Eskom probably can’t afford it just yet.

]]> By: jt http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2008/10/30/will-pietie-give-leon-the-axe/#comment-634 jt Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:32:54 +0000 http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2008/10/30/will-pietie-give-leon-the-axe/#comment-634 Leon, you are making some seriously wild assumptions about Vrygrond (and I sincerely hope this isn't the sort of talk that goes on at MDGA Excom meetings). Everybody is entitled to a free quota of electricity & water, yourself included. And if you study your rates bill you will see that you also enjoy a rebate on your property rates. Leon, you are making some seriously wild assumptions about Vrygrond (and I sincerely hope this isn’t the sort of talk that goes on at MDGA Excom meetings).
Everybody is entitled to a free quota of electricity & water, yourself included. And if you study your rates bill you will see that you also enjoy a rebate on your property rates.

]]> By: leon http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2008/10/30/will-pietie-give-leon-the-axe/#comment-630 leon Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:18:03 +0000 http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2008/10/30/will-pietie-give-leon-the-axe/#comment-630 All I saw so far is a lot of talking. Talking in circles like polititions who really do not have answers. No one has real answers or proof that what was said can be done - just asumptions. The MDGA is legal but the constitution is illegal according to you so what have you done to correct it. Nothing because hot air balloons evently comes down to the real world and realise it can not be done. I can maybe get fired by Monday but guess what I have been nominated again. Pietie's job then get nomitated by the nice folk who give up their free time and who entertains confused people like yourself. So the chance I get Pietie's job is good. With regard to Vrygrond - do you like that place. Are you prepared to stay there. You will get free electricity ; water and rates. Is that not what you wanted. Everything for FREE and on a platter. Maybe a free house to if you can confince council to give it to you. If not just grap some land. Just say it was your anscieters land. all this kindly sponsored by the rate payer. All I saw so far is a lot of talking. Talking in circles like polititions who really do not have answers. No one has real answers or proof that what was said can be done - just asumptions.

The MDGA is legal but the constitution is illegal according to you so what have you done to correct it. Nothing because hot air balloons evently comes down to the real world and realise it can not be done.

I can maybe get fired by Monday but guess what I have been nominated again. Pietie’s job then get nomitated by the nice folk who give up their free time and who entertains confused people like yourself. So the chance I get Pietie’s job is good.

With regard to Vrygrond - do you like that place. Are you prepared to stay there. You will get free electricity ; water and rates. Is that not what you wanted. Everything for FREE and on a platter. Maybe a free house to if you can confince council to give it to you. If not just grap some land. Just say it was your anscieters land.

all this kindly sponsored by the rate payer.

]]> By: jt http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2008/10/30/will-pietie-give-leon-the-axe/#comment-628 jt Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:14:20 +0000 http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2008/10/30/will-pietie-give-leon-the-axe/#comment-628 Leon, Leon, Leon, how many times must we explain? Why do you keep missing the point regarding the MDGA constitution? If you don't mind I'm not going to dance around that daisy bush with you any more. As regards volunteers and voluntary associations, you really should have more faith in your fellow man. Did you have a bad childhood experience that makes you so negative and distrustful of the community in which you live? As for Vrygrond and other neighbouring communities, where do you get off being so insulting and derogatory? When co-opted onto the MDGA Excom were you not made to sign a confidentiality agreement? Is the Chairman aware that you're blabbering away over here? There was a time when he didn't tolerate Excom members stepping out of line like this - ask the others. One squeak on this site nearly saw their hands cut off. In normal circumstances, I'd say the odds of your getting fired before Monday are excellent - 10:1 - but you're in luck as the Chairman is desperate to hand over to someone who will make him seem comparatively harmless. I think you fit the bill :-) Leon, Leon, Leon, how many times must we explain? Why do you keep missing the point regarding the MDGA constitution? If you don’t mind I’m not going to dance around that daisy bush with you any more.
As regards volunteers and voluntary associations, you really should have more faith in your fellow man. Did you have a bad childhood experience that makes you so negative and distrustful of the community in which you live? As for Vrygrond and other neighbouring communities, where do you get off being so insulting and derogatory?
When co-opted onto the MDGA Excom were you not made to sign a confidentiality agreement? Is the Chairman aware that you’re blabbering away over here? There was a time when he didn’t tolerate Excom members stepping out of line like this - ask the others. One squeak on this site nearly saw their hands cut off.
In normal circumstances, I’d say the odds of your getting fired before Monday are excellent - 10:1 - but you’re in luck as the Chairman is desperate to hand over to someone who will make him seem comparatively harmless. I think you fit the bill :-)

]]> By: leon http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2008/10/30/will-pietie-give-leon-the-axe/#comment-627 leon Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:26:09 +0000 http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2008/10/30/will-pietie-give-leon-the-axe/#comment-627 I am here to stay. Get more clarity on this issue. Strange none of you fence sitters are joining up. Imagine we have you on the MDGA. We can change the way people think. Give them the freedom of choice. Even introduce a legal constitition. With the info you have given me so far it wont be long before we will have a special area called Vrygrond extension with an Association that do not really work for you as they have no power over you or any rights - who will be on a volunteer basis - and for free. Keep up the good work. I can not wait for that day. I am here to stay. Get more clarity on this issue.

Strange none of you fence sitters are joining up.

Imagine we have you on the MDGA. We can change the way people think. Give them the freedom of choice. Even introduce a legal constitition.

With the info you have given me so far it wont be long before we will have a special area called Vrygrond extension with an Association that do not really work for you as they have no power over you or any rights - who will be on a volunteer basis - and for free.

Keep up the good work. I can not wait for that day.

]]> By: Anita http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2008/10/30/will-pietie-give-leon-the-axe/#comment-626 Anita Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:13:53 +0000 http://marinasecurity.mylifeinsa.com/2008/10/30/will-pietie-give-leon-the-axe/#comment-626 My bet is that Pietie has given up on the Marina and will not make any more effort to protect the Marina's good name. Besides, no-one else wants to fill his dirtied shoes. I bet 10-1 Leon stays. My bet is that Pietie has given up on the Marina and will not make any more effort to protect the Marina’s good name. Besides, no-one else wants to fill his dirtied shoes. I bet 10-1 Leon stays.

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